tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7363077490625848984.post1285984496840938705..comments2023-10-01T09:31:17.696-04:00Comments on Shawn Kemp's Offspring: Interview:Chuck KlostermanARhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/02494635972366860614noreply@blogger.comBlogger28125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7363077490625848984.post-36868235797835050712008-08-19T12:00:00.000-04:002008-08-19T12:00:00.000-04:00intresting Tariq. Intresting Intresting Intresting...intresting Tariq. Intresting Intresting Intresting. In other news, i cant post on SLAM. Man i am so pissed off. Well i really am not but, at the same time it would be nice to talk to you guys their. Oh and i updated my site:<BR/><BR/>www.freewebs.com/betcats<BR/><BR/>support me, support me!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7363077490625848984.post-54346466247808213952008-08-19T10:09:00.000-04:002008-08-19T10:09:00.000-04:00"Tea-bagging the Butler" is, I think, a game rich ..."Tea-bagging the Butler" is, I think, a game rich kids with trust funds play. I could be wrong though.TADOnehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13841684893864630193noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7363077490625848984.post-25858128172434307082008-08-18T20:38:00.000-04:002008-08-18T20:38:00.000-04:00B.Long:I REALLY hope I'm wrong. I hope Obama wins ...B.Long:<BR/><BR/>I REALLY hope I'm wrong. I hope Obama wins and says "You know what, I'm going to change America's approach to foreign policy, even though it's been like this since we attacked the Philippines in the beginning of the last century." I really hope he does that. <BR/><BR/>But he won't. He may spin it a certain way, but in the end he's going to be a good boy and do the following:<BR/><BR/>a- Support Israel. I don't care if the entire world comes together to pass a resolution against Israel (like they have on numerous occasions), the President of the US will still veto that ass (like he has on numerous occasions).<BR/><BR/>b- Continue to put military bases everywhere.<BR/><BR/>c- Continue to use preventive strikes. Now, there's a difference between PREEMPTIVE strikes and PREVENTIVE strikes. If you know that a country is going to attack you, and you attack it first, then that's a PREEMPTIVE strike, and that's fine. The US, however, practices PREVENTIVE strikes, meaning that if a nation gets close to the point where it would be ABLE to attack the US, the US attacks first. According to the UN, this is AGGRESSION, which is a war crime.<BR/><BR/>But I've noticed something: If someone ELSE commits aggression, people call it that: aggression. If the US government commits aggression, it's given a cute little euphemism like "protecting our freedoms" or "spreading democracy" or "tea-bagging the butler" or some shit.Tariq al Haydarhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09885586213698005388noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7363077490625848984.post-6977225520866052842008-08-18T17:22:00.000-04:002008-08-18T17:22:00.000-04:00Be looking for that around the beginning of Decemb...Be looking for that around the beginning of December.Eboyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15328696199422961571noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7363077490625848984.post-60557966012854610292008-08-18T16:38:00.000-04:002008-08-18T16:38:00.000-04:00sincitysouth@hotmail.comsincitysouth@hotmail.comB. Longhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03535312025575381643noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7363077490625848984.post-42727486690114706412008-08-18T12:12:00.000-04:002008-08-18T12:12:00.000-04:00Where can we send a revolution contract, B?Where can we send a revolution contract, B?Eboyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15328696199422961571noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7363077490625848984.post-21261238878574119252008-08-18T12:09:00.000-04:002008-08-18T12:09:00.000-04:00Like I said Obama and McCain both could be full of...Like I said Obama and McCain both could be full of shit. The way I understood it was that Clinton bombed Iraq to take attention away from Monicagate for a week. I remember it vaguely. You do make some great points that I agree with but I do think that who is President can make a diffrence. Even if it's just in perception from other nations I think that their perceptions of us obviously effects our reality. Clinton still did nothing about Al Queda. Bush was Chaney's power whore. I may just be niave. If Obama wins and shit doesn't get better then I'll join your revolution.B. Longhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03535312025575381643noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7363077490625848984.post-29601957386524909132008-08-18T10:50:00.000-04:002008-08-18T10:50:00.000-04:00I pay attention. My comment was purely sarcasm. Be...I pay attention. My comment was purely sarcasm. <BR/><BR/>Besides, I would probably jump off a building if I lived in a country that worships hockey.TADOnehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13841684893864630193noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7363077490625848984.post-89176205787253942202008-08-18T10:33:00.000-04:002008-08-18T10:33:00.000-04:00I didn't call you uninformed, fucker, just said pa...I didn't call you uninformed, fucker, just said pay more attention. :) Yes politics, especially American politics, are hard to digest in any form.Eboyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15328696199422961571noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7363077490625848984.post-10207257836182534932008-08-18T10:14:00.000-04:002008-08-18T10:14:00.000-04:00I'm not uninformed Eboy, but I just don't care for...I'm not uninformed Eboy, but I just don't care for most of what goes on in politics.TADOnehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13841684893864630193noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7363077490625848984.post-82343164833166316712008-08-18T10:03:00.000-04:002008-08-18T10:03:00.000-04:00You guys need to pay attention more often. Tariq,...You guys need to pay attention more often. Tariq, good points all, and yes, they are widely known if you can dig past CNN, MSNBC and the rest of the controlled media.Eboyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15328696199422961571noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7363077490625848984.post-85452392184027658322008-08-18T09:30:00.000-04:002008-08-18T09:30:00.000-04:00I hate politics. Tariq has made me feel like my vo...I hate politics. Tariq has made me feel like my vote won't count. <BR/><BR/>F*ck it, i'm moving to Canada!TADOnehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13841684893864630193noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7363077490625848984.post-36712944003459835172008-08-18T03:09:00.000-04:002008-08-18T03:09:00.000-04:00Tariq is smart. Can I get your book?Tariq is smart. Can I get your book?Hurstyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13798285581980033351noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7363077490625848984.post-29332360052618360512008-08-17T01:15:00.000-04:002008-08-17T01:15:00.000-04:00One more thing: If Obama REALLY is serious about a...One more thing: If Obama REALLY is serious about adopting a less imperialistic approach to foreign policy, he won't become president. Count on it.Tariq al Haydarhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09885586213698005388noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7363077490625848984.post-11540648276385625302008-08-16T17:30:00.000-04:002008-08-16T17:30:00.000-04:00And you know what? I bet a lot of people don't eve...And you know what? I bet a lot of people don't even REMEMBER that Clinton bombed Iraq. Because I doubt you guys over here see the same images I see back home. Images of schools and hospitals burned to the ground and kids with their limbs blown off and the like. No, you won't see that on CNN. CNN will show you images of scary dudes with beards.<BR/><BR/>I find it humorous in a very sad way that a large percentage of the American people thought that Iraq was helping al Qaeda. Do you know that Osama bin Laden considered Saddam Hussein to be a non-believer who was outside the fold of Islam? He considered Saddam an enemy of Islam. Yet, in 2003, the media would CONSTANTLY form associations between the two. So that informed American public opinion, which is crucial for any war.Tariq al Haydarhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09885586213698005388noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7363077490625848984.post-38220180710807039502008-08-16T17:11:00.000-04:002008-08-16T17:11:00.000-04:00B. Long:I know that Obama and McCain have SUPPOSED...B. Long:<BR/><BR/>I know that Obama and McCain have SUPPOSEDLY different views on foreign policy, but American Foreign Policy is not something the President can change. The president is just a single cog in a machine with a fixed agenda. The American government has in the past and will continue to do whatever is in its own interests, regardless of any moral obligations.<BR/><BR/>Of course, the American people, in theory, should affect government policy, but they really don't. Because the American people are controlled not by force, but through media manipulation and marginalization. The average American is supposed to stay entertained and remain outside the sphere of real influence.<BR/><BR/>It may SEEM that there's a huge difference between Dubya and Clinton, and there ARE some differences in policy, but not in foreign policy. Not really. <BR/><BR/>First off, you have to realize that Dubya was president at the time of 9-11, so he had the biggest pretext ever. Clinton COULDN'T just go invading countries left and right like Bush. He had no pretext comparable to 9-11. However, to say that Clinton "took no real action" is just not true. He bombed the sh*t out of Iraq. He expanded the "no-fly zone". He increased sanctions on Iraq to the point that Iraqi citizens were dying and fleeing the country as refugees. And this was BEFORE al Qaeda. This was in 1996. You know what Clinton used as a pretext for his military strike? The oppression of the Kurdish people. the American Government was so overwhelmed with compassion for the oppressed Kurds that it felt it had to bomb the sh*t out of Iraq....Of course, Washington has ALWAYS opposed Kurdish independence, but that's beside the point. The point is that it could use the Kurds as a pretext.<BR/><BR/>And when Clinton bombed Iraq? the Republicans supported him. Of course they did. Bob Dole gave Clinton his full support, even though he was running against him. And who was Dole's senior advisor? John McCain.<BR/><BR/>See, McCain, Clinton, Obama, whoever's in the Oval Office... they can only control so much. the American Government is MUCH more complex than just one man. You have Congress, the Supreme Court.... American Foreign Policy is FIXED. No one administration can alter it. It will ALWAYS be based on expansion, control, hegemony, dominance and accumulation of wealth. Any moral concerns are just pretext.<BR/><BR/>If Obama wins, I bet you a dollar he continues the same policies that have been in place for more than a century. I realy don't think Obama will all of a sudden make peace and sh*t a priority. That would be great, but unrealistic.Tariq al Haydarhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09885586213698005388noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7363077490625848984.post-89778410695706261742008-08-16T13:44:00.000-04:002008-08-16T13:44:00.000-04:00Well Tariq, the only clue that I have on what thei...Well Tariq, the only clue that I have on what their actual policy is going to be once they are elected into office is from what they are saying now. Which we both know could be total bullshit. I'm no political scientist but from what I gather Obama wants to actually have open sit downs with leaders of our rival countries like Iran and try to actually work out a resoultion instead of label anyone who holds any resentment towards America and happens to have a weapons program a terrorist and demand that they be sanctioned by the U.N. This of course was a plan that was labeled a slap in the face to our soldiers by McCain's campaign because sitting down with our enemies and trying to find a soultion to our problems is obviously unpatriotic. McCain would much rather just invade and conquer the ol'fashion way. You'd think a P.O.W would have a better understanding of what the troops are dealing with over there but I guess not. Obama also wants to have a scheduled date to bring home our soldiers in Iraq unlike McCain who said he'd keep our soldiers there for 100 years if thats what it takes to get the job done. <BR/><BR/>As far as a diffrence's between presidents goes just look at Clinton and Dubya. Clinton took no real action and considered Al Queda no real threat during his administration even though they were performing terrorist acts on U.S. embassy's and Navy aircraft carriers. This eventual led to the attacks on 9/11 which Dubya acted on swiftly by targeting Afganhastan. He then used the fear generated by the attacks to force the U.S. into a constitutionally illegal war in Iraq so Cheaney's Halliburton cronies could rake in the dough. Perfect example of one president doing to little and one abusing the power that was given to him. But like I said I'm no political scientist so I may be completely wrong but this is my p.o.v.B. Longhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03535312025575381643noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7363077490625848984.post-53194275914348335252008-08-15T23:19:00.000-04:002008-08-15T23:19:00.000-04:00B. Long:What are those extreme differences in fore...B. Long:<BR/>What are those extreme differences in foreign policy? Not only are there no extreme differences, there aren't even any slight differences, no matter what they may be saying now.<BR/><BR/>In fact, I'd like anyone to point out ANY difference between ANY two presidents in terms of foreign policy since the start of the 20th Century. Any 2 presidents: Roosevelt and Clinton? Truman and Kennedy? Reagan and Carter? All of them follow the same general pattern.Tariq al Haydarhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09885586213698005388noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7363077490625848984.post-84274009321675981622008-08-15T14:41:00.000-04:002008-08-15T14:41:00.000-04:00Wow, I didn't know you guys had it like that. Gre...Wow, I didn't know you guys had it like that. Great Interview and I love his assesment of Stern's body of work. I still have sympathy for Suns fan over that call and I'm a gawd damn Lakers fan. Interesting p.o.v. on the political front as well. I kind of understand where he is coming from because I'm more familiar with McCain's body of work pre-election but I still believe there are some very extreme diffrences on their foreign policies at the least. There is a great article in Rolling Stone that seems to echo some of the things he's touching on. Great Job, AR.B. Longhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03535312025575381643noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7363077490625848984.post-69613679526265631812008-08-14T09:15:00.000-04:002008-08-14T09:15:00.000-04:00wtf is mannatech? btw, that dude is smart.wtf is mannatech? btw, that dude is smart.Hurstyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13798285581980033351noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7363077490625848984.post-81029435838820564002008-08-14T00:59:00.000-04:002008-08-14T00:59:00.000-04:00I'm certainly going to have to check out more of K...I'm certainly going to have to check out more of Klosterman's work. If he's remotely similar to Hunter S., I'll be more than pleased! :-)Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7363077490625848984.post-53538285331075188652008-08-13T19:59:00.000-04:002008-08-13T19:59:00.000-04:00Great work, Alan!Chuck Klosterman is the man. I've...Great work, Alan!<BR/><BR/>Chuck Klosterman is the man. I've been saving "Sex, Drugs and Cocoa Puffs" for the plane back home. I'll probably spend the 14-hour flight reading that and listening to the new GZA.Tariq al Haydarhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09885586213698005388noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7363077490625848984.post-25981388750229781552008-08-13T18:55:00.000-04:002008-08-13T18:55:00.000-04:00Chuck, thanks for giving our little blog a big han...Chuck, thanks for giving our little blog a big hand into having some validity. I think you have gained some new fans who may have been missing out on you words for some time now. Thanks almost seems hollow. Greatly appreciated is more like it. <BR/><BR/>AR, fabulous work, my friend. You are the hero of the day, if not 2008 for SKO.<BR/><BR/>I also co-sign the suddenly tangent ASPOV. Perception is a bitch and we are just now as a country feeling the effects of what others have thought of us for s, so long.<BR/><BR/>And Mr. Jones, if you ever feel like giving us an exclusive, all you have to do is ask. Mannatech!Eboyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15328696199422961571noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7363077490625848984.post-74514662318392215992008-08-13T17:10:00.000-04:002008-08-13T17:10:00.000-04:00Ryan-we didn't exchange small talk but I did name ...Ryan-we didn't exchange small talk but I did name drop you in there somewhere,though I think it was an insult.ARhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02494635972366860614noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7363077490625848984.post-33935401205362134402008-08-13T17:01:00.000-04:002008-08-13T17:01:00.000-04:00I trust you told him I said hello. He still in Ger...I trust you told him I said hello. He still in Germany? We ain't talked in a minute...Unknownhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06623821192748847788noreply@blogger.com